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	<title>General Gymnastics Questions :: women and gymnastics in Canada</title>
	<link>http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=13890#13890</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=71&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Guest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: women and gymnastics in Canada&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:01 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Do you thnk Canada will ever be a country where people look to for solid women gymnasts?  I was watching a program a few months back and they specifically highlighted how Canadian women gymnasts are lagging compared to many countries considering their abilities in so many other sports and I thought that was a comment those in gymnastics in Canada would be very disheartened with.  There are many girls in this country who work very hard to try to gain national status yet they are never looked at as threats.  Why do you think this is?  How can this be improved?
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	<title>General Gymnastics Questions :: RE: London 2012 announces gymnastics supplier</title>
	<link>http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=13889#13889</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=488&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;GymMum66&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:38 pm (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 5&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Canadian gymnasts need to compete on international equipment on a regular basis!!  It is a positive step for Canadian Gymnastics!!!  Sell out?  That's a very short sited view in my opinion!!!
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	<title>General Gymnastics Questions :: RE: London 2012 announces gymnastics supplier</title>
	<link>http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=13888#13888</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=71&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Guest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:24 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;The recent Canada Cup for T&amp;amp;T in Mississauga used Gymnova equipment.
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	<title>General Gymnastics Questions :: RE: London 2012 announces gymnastics supplier</title>
	<link>http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=13887#13887</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=71&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Guest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:05 pm (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 5&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;maybe this kind of propaganda works, someones been lobbying pretty hard from GymNova- I hear they are now the National supplier for Nationals. Did CGC really sell-out to France, and not continue to support Canada(S/A Sports)
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	<title>General Gymnastics Questions :: RE: Gymnastics Lessons HST</title>
	<link>http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=13886#13886</link>
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:57 pm (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 2&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Only private (for-profit) clubs as bussinesses must charge HST(Ontario-13%), however public-sector entities( non-profit clubs) do not have to ! Seems un-just that one model should have a 13% economic advantage over the other model of delivering a service !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Goverments are constantly talking about the need for the private sector to make investments in things, I can tell you its hard to help support Gymnastics programming in Ontario the way things are.
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	<title>General Gymnastics Questions :: RE: Gymnastics Lessons HST</title>
	<link>http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=13885#13885</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=71&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Guest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:29 pm (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 2&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;All clubs in BC and Ontario are required to charge HST on lessons is that not correct ?
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	<title>General Gymnastics Questions :: Gymnastics Lessons HST</title>
	<link>http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=13884#13884</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=71&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Guest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Gymnastics Lessons HST&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:37 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 2&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Does your club charge HST/GST on lesson/membership fees?
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	<title>General Gymnastics Questions :: RE: No Ontario Cup in 2010-2011????</title>
	<link>http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=13883#13883</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=71&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Guest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: Ontario Cup&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:15 pm (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 10&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;guest714 wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;After competing in Ontario for 4 years, my daughter and 3 of her team mates moved to a gymnastics club in Michigan and, for the most part, are enjoying gymnastics once again.  Each has competed in either 8 or 9 competitions over the year, with competitions on back to back weekends  twice. They have not experienced either physical or mental burn out.  One of the reasons is that to qualify for the &amp;quot;post season&amp;quot; the qualifying score is so low and they only have to attain this score at any one sanctioned USAG competition anywhere in the US.  So there is no pressure other than the pressure associated with wanting to do well as opposed to having to do well to qualify.  And, if a gymnast has a poor meet, she can still be a winner if her team does well.  It seems that there is always a team competition in addition to the individual competition.  At regular meets, its gym vs gym at each session.  At the regional competition, its state vs state.  And, at eastern nationals or nationals it region vs region.  This friendly competition adds a little extra excitement for the gymnasts.  In conclusion, GO has to do something that makes gymnastics more exciting for the gymnasts or they will leave the sport.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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Thank you guest714 for your input. This is something GO should have implemented years ago. Unfortunately we have lost and continue to lose talented athletes due to the present system. Ontario &amp;amp; the rest of Canada need to get onboard with the rest of the gymnastics world if we are to be viable contenders on the international stage, and to make it to the international stage, it all starts at the provincial level. Abolishing the Ontario Cup is a start (although it should have never been implemented in the first place). GO still has a lot more work ahead of them if they want to keep girls in this very demanding sport.
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	<title>General Gymnastics Questions :: RE: No Ontario Cup in 2010-2011????</title>
	<link>http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=13882#13882</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=451&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;guest714&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Ontario Cup&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:40 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 10&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;After competing in Ontario for 4 years, my daughter and 3 of her team mates moved to a gymnastics club in Michigan and, for the most part, are enjoying gymnastics once again.  Each has competed in either 8 or 9 competitions over the year, with competitions on back to back weekends  twice. They have not experienced either physical or mental burn out.  One of the reasons is that to qualify for the &amp;quot;post season&amp;quot; the qualifying score is so low and they only have to attain this score at any one sanctioned USAG competition anywhere in the US.  So there is no pressure other than the pressure associated with wanting to do well as opposed to having to do well to qualify.  And, if a gymnast has a poor meet, she can still be a winner if her team does well.  It seems that there is always a team competition in addition to the individual competition.  At regular meets, its gym vs gym at each session.  At the regional competition, its state vs state.  And, at eastern nationals or nationals it region vs region.  This friendly competition adds a little extra excitement for the gymnasts.  In conclusion, GO has to do something that makes gymnastics more exciting for the gymnasts or they will leave the sport.
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	<title>General Gymnastics Questions :: RE: No Ontario Cup in 2010-2011????</title>
	<link>http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=13881#13881</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=71&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Guest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:39 pm (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 10&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Guest wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;This is super news.  By the time the Ontario Cup came around many girls were burned out and some that had been ranked in the top 10 all year just crashed and it was sad to see them having done so well now at the bottom of the pack.  Excellent move.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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Sadly, this news is too late for some, as I am aware of a few girls who will not be returning next season as they were as you put it &amp;quot;burned out&amp;quot;, and they were ranked in the top prior to Ontario Cup. I agree, the move to eliminate the Ontario Cup was an excellent decision, just wish it had been done sooner rather than later.
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	<title>General Gymnastics Questions :: RE: No Ontario Cup in 2010-2011????</title>
	<link>http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=13880#13880</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=71&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Guest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:20 pm (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 10&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;This is super news.  By the time the Ontario Cup came around many girls were burned out and some that had been ranked in the top 10 all year just crashed and it was sad to see them having done so well now at the bottom of the pack.  Excellent move.
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	<title>Gymnastics Results :: RE: REACH FOR THE SKY RESULTS</title>
	<link>http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=13879#13879</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=71&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Guest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:49 pm (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 4&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Thanks Jill  &lt;img src=&quot;http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Smile&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;
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	<title>Gymnastics Results :: RE: REACH FOR THE SKY RESULTS</title>
	<link>http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=13878#13878</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=11&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Jill&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:00 pm (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 4&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;GO website
&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;Jilly&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Gymnastics Results :: RE: REACH FOR THE SKY RESULTS</title>
	<link>http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=13877#13877</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=71&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Guest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:25 pm (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 4&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Thanks. Does anyone have any individual results for L8 &amp;amp; 9?
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	<title>General Gymnastics Questions :: RE: No Ontario Cup in 2010-2011????</title>
	<link>http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=13876#13876</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://gymwatch.com/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=71&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Guest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:43 pm (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 10&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;This is good news! I think GO is moving in the right direction. The system in place here in Ontario is outdated with the rest of the country and the U.S. Not sure who was responsible for implementing the Ontario Cup in the first place, but seriously what a bad move that was.
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